The Kim Davis case is tricky. I was definitely on the border with how I felt about this case, but after careful consideration and a lot of thought I don't believe she's at fault to the extent she is being punished. Her sentencing was harsh and completely unjust, being that she won't be released from prison until she complies with something she doesn't even agree with. Someone came into her work and asked her for a same sex marriage license. Due to her religious beliefs and circumstances, she refused. As a devout religious person, she she could not get herself to sign off on something she is not taught to believe. No matter what, if someone comes into your place of work it is always expected that their demands will be met. However, if you spiritually do not agree with what is being asked, you DO have a right to refuse. I remember hearing about a case in New York similar. A small hospital run by nuns was going to be forced to offer abortions. Clearly, they refused. Because of their refusal they got sued. It is obvious that the debate as to where to draw the line between church and state is ongoing. I just hope I don't get in trouble for staying loyal to my religion.
I agree with Maren’s statement. While reading this article I was dumbfounded how knowledgeable the Supreme Court’s ruling was. Kim Davis’s punishment was too harsh for the situation. For her to be in jail indefinitely without bail because of her religious views is completely unjust. I do not think her punishment is appropriate and believe a different consequence must be in order. Kim Davis has the freedom to express her religion. The guidelines for her to get out of jail are absurd because she has to defy her religious beliefs. Not only is this unjust, but also it contradicts the Constitution. I believe this situation is complex in that she did break the law but only to respect her religion, however, her punishment is completely unjust.
I agree with Maren that Kim Davis's punishment is quite harsh, but I also believe that Kim Davis could have gone about the matter in a different, more professional manner. On June 25, 2015, Congress passed a law that all same-sex couples had the opportunity to marry in all 50 states. This caused an uproar in the Catholic community, seeing as Catholics believe marriage is made to be between a man and a woman. Kim Davis is a devout Catholic and in my opinion should have (and could have) quit her job instead of creating a huge ordeal for herself, the Catholic church, and the state of Kentucky. There are some thoughts that I have had that Kim Davis did this is a publicity stunt so she could have the opportunity to personally address the topic of same-sex marriage to millions across the world.
The judges ruling on the Kim Davis case is absolutely absurd. I don’t understand how a judge can rule imprisonment without bail for such a mild case. I get that this case is very controversial and complicated, but she didn’t commit a terrible crime to get charged such a serious sentencing. Its not like she killed someone. Furthermore, I agree with Km Davis in the sense that she is standing up for what she believes in. Everyone in this country should have religious freedom. If someone doesn’t want to make a wedding cake for a gay couple, they should have the option to refuse without risking their jobs. That would just be ridiculous.
Although I think that Kim Davis should be held accountable for her actions, because she directly defied the law, I believe it was to harsh. The law says that she had to issue the marriage license, but it also contradicts her religious beliefs. This country was founded on the belief of religious freedom, and that freedom has always been protected, until now. This story is an example of which laws triumph over the rights of the people. Kim Davis could’ve resigned, but instead she was used as an example for all of those who were thinking of not following the Supreme Court’s ruling.
After thinking about this situation for a while and seeing both sides of the argument, one simple answer still hasnt come to me. I understand that gay marriage has been passed by the Supreme Court and is now legal, however another law is freedom of religion. Having Kim Davis be sent to jail without bail and not letting her out until she changes her beliefs is insane to me. Basically they are saying that until she thinks the way the judge does, she will sit in jail for the rest of her life. I dont understand why the gay couple could not just have someone else sign their marriage license and why they cant respect that some people still dont accept gay marriage. For me personally, i think in this situation they are choosing law over peoples rights.
Kim Davis did not deserve the harsh punishment that she received. She was only staying true to herself and her faith. Although, i do think that she should suffer some sort of punishment. What she did not only goes against the law, but it also is down right cruel. She refused to give a marriage license to a couple that just now finally got the right to marry the person that they loved. When the couple finally thought that their fight for love was over, Kim Davis ripped it away from them once again.On the other hand, i believe that Kim Davis deserves to be heard too. The law states that she has the freedom to practice and to stand by her religious beliefs. In the end, I think the Court could have come up with a much better, and more reasonable punishment for Davis.
Kim Davis's sentencing was unjust and unconstitutional. Although the Supreme Court passed a law stating that gay marriage is legal in all fifty states, that does not mean that our legal system can encroach on the religious rights of individual. We are guaranteed the basic right to freedom of religion in the Bill of Rights, and it is unconstitutional to punish someone for upholding his or her religious beliefs. Furthermore, Kim Davis has a right to have a public trial according to the Bill of Rights. It is unconstitutional and severe for the judge to place Davis in jail without a trial, without bail, and without a way to go free except by disobeying her religious beliefs. The government is overstepping its power. Davis has a right to say no, and the government cannot force her to abide to secular law if it is in conflict with her religion.
This is a difficult case to take sides on because it goes back to the day old agreement of church verses state. Kim Davis is a catholic who doesn't believe in gay marriage yet works for the government which ruled for gay marriage. She works for the government therefore she must follow the guide lines of her job, however, she is allowed to act upon her religious beliefs. She is standing between a rock and a hard place. If she would have signed the document papers to marry the two men she would have been going against her believes and what she believes God has told her to do but she is not doing her job. I personally think if you can not fulfill your job requirements then you should find another job. Its the same thing as being a sales rep but not believing in what you are selling. The government ruled that gay marriage is legal and she works for the government therefore she needs to follow the rules. Everyday there are new stories in the new about individuals or groups of people who are challenging the church verses state argument and she just open the topic up again on a national level. After saying all of this I believe her punishment was harsh. She shouldn't be forced to do something she doesn't believe in but if her job requires her to then she should take it upon herself to find a new job.
After listening to both sides of this story, I have come to the conclusion that Kim Davis’ punishment was too harsh. The fact that she is in jail indefinitely without bail for voicing her opinion is very inhumane. Even though she didn’t agree with the homosexual couples, she could’ve gone about the matter differently and the government as well. There was no reason for her to be imprisoned because she was following her religion and personal beliefs. The people that challenged her should be ashamed of themselves for causing problems for no good reason. In conclusion, Kim Davis should be let out of jail and the entire problem should be resolved.
I would have to agree with everyone above in saying that Kim Davis' punishment was much too harsh. As Americans, we have been taught to believe that in this country we will always be free. We will have religious freedom to believe whatever we wish and that the country will not punish you for living out these beliefs. By putting Kim in jail in definetly goes against all that this country was founded on. It is difficult to say whether Kim did the right thing in refusing this couple marriage, I believe that she had a right to stick up for her beliefs and that she should not have been punished by that. Knowing however what her job was going to entail after the law was passed legalizing gay marriage, I feel like she should have quit then and there so to avoid any problems in the future with compromising her faith. If she had done so, she would not have fallen into any situation where she needed to refuse to comply.
I agree with Maren. This case is very complicated. I do not believe Kim Davis should have been punished so severely. Being in prison until complying with something she doesn't agree with is not only harsh but completely unfair and unjust. In this country we have religious freedom, and due to Kim's religious beliefs she denied a same sex couple a marriage license. She is devoted to her religion and should not be forced to sign off on something she doesn't agree with. Being devoted and loyal to your believes should not be a reason to be imprisoned. If we have the freedom to belief in what we want, then we should have the right to act in respect to those beliefs. No one should have to be afraid that they're going to get in trouble for their beliefs.
This is a very complicated situation. Everyone not only has a duty to abide by the laws of his or her government, but also an obligation to stand by his or her moral beliefs. Kim Davis clearly listened to her conscience and religion in this case. She believed that granting this couple a marriage license was contrary to God's intention for marriage. Sometimes the only way to change a law is to break it and bring attention to the problems it creates. This has been done in the past by many people. Including Rosa Parks when she refused to give up her seat on the bus. Although I doubt Davis's actions will start a movement to revoke this law, she has to stand by her beliefs in everything she does. She may have had the wrong job for her beliefs but I also believe her punishment was much too harsh. Like Elizabeth said, it is unconstitutional and unjust. She should not be punished for her religion with her only option being to turn her back on her faith.
After hearing both sides of the story, I believe that Kim Davis’ punishment was way too harsh. She was put in jail without bail until she changes her mind. Although gay marriage has been passed as a law, freedom of religion is also a law. By putting Kim Davis in jail for not believing what others believe is not okay, she has the freedom of religion. The couple could have found another person to sign their marriage licenses. Kim Davis has some nothing wrong so in the end, she should be let out of jail.
The acceptance of same sex marriage is still an issue today. People who are not part of the LGBT community and do not support it have the mindset that it is wrong or abnormal, and therefore do not support it and are against it. People who don't agree with it don't necessarily have to go out of their way to show that they don't like it and make people in the LGBT community's life more challenging. I do think that people who went out of their way to go to Kim from out of state just to make a scene and prove a point were a little in the wrong, but at the same time, it is her job to deal with marriage contracts, and with it becoming legalized she should've been aware that this was a high possibility.
I believe that the punishment for Kim Davis is extreme. I think she should have been given the option between resigning and going through with handing out the marriage license to the gay couples trying to obtain them. My belief that her sentencing was taken too far however, does not mean that I agree with her actions. While I respect her religion and I can understand where her actions came from, I agree with the article that she should have resigned. There was no need to make a scene. She could have simply stepped down from her position because of the interference with her beliefs.
I believe that the punishment for Kim Davis is extreme. I think she should have been given the option between resigning and going through with handing out the marriage license to the gay couples trying to obtain them. My belief that her sentencing was taken too far however, does not mean that I agree with her actions. While I respect her religion and I can understand where her actions came from, I agree with the article that she should have resigned. There was no need to make a scene. She could have simply stepped down from her position because of the interference with her beliefs.
The Kim Davis case is tricky. I was definitely on the border with how I felt about this case, but after careful consideration and a lot of thought I don't believe she's at fault to the extent she is being punished. Her sentencing was harsh and completely unjust, being that she won't be released from prison until she complies with something she doesn't even agree with. Someone came into her work and asked her for a same sex marriage license. Due to her religious beliefs and circumstances, she refused. As a devout religious person, she she could not get herself to sign off on something she is not taught to believe. No matter what, if someone comes into your place of work it is always expected that their demands will be met. However, if you spiritually do not agree with what is being asked, you DO have a right to refuse. I remember hearing about a case in New York similar. A small hospital run by nuns was going to be forced to offer abortions. Clearly, they refused. Because of their refusal they got sued. It is obvious that the debate as to where to draw the line between church and state is ongoing. I just hope I don't get in trouble for staying loyal to my religion.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Maren’s statement. While reading this article I was dumbfounded how knowledgeable the Supreme Court’s ruling was. Kim Davis’s punishment was too harsh for the situation. For her to be in jail indefinitely without bail because of her religious views is completely unjust. I do not think her punishment is appropriate and believe a different consequence must be in order. Kim Davis has the freedom to express her religion. The guidelines for her to get out of jail are absurd because she has to defy her religious beliefs. Not only is this unjust, but also it contradicts the Constitution. I believe this situation is complex in that she did break the law but only to respect her religion, however, her punishment is completely unjust.
DeleteI agree with Maren that Kim Davis's punishment is quite harsh, but I also believe that Kim Davis could have gone about the matter in a different, more professional manner. On June 25, 2015, Congress passed a law that all same-sex couples had the opportunity to marry in all 50 states. This caused an uproar in the Catholic community, seeing as Catholics believe marriage is made to be between a man and a woman. Kim Davis is a devout Catholic and in my opinion should have (and could have) quit her job instead of creating a huge ordeal for herself, the Catholic church, and the state of Kentucky. There are some thoughts that I have had that Kim Davis did this is a publicity stunt so she could have the opportunity to personally address the topic of same-sex marriage to millions across the world.
ReplyDeleteThe judges ruling on the Kim Davis case is absolutely absurd. I don’t understand how a judge can rule imprisonment without bail for such a mild case. I get that this case is very controversial and complicated, but she didn’t commit a terrible crime to get charged such a serious sentencing. Its not like she killed someone. Furthermore, I agree with Km Davis in the sense that she is standing up for what she believes in. Everyone in this country should have religious freedom. If someone doesn’t want to make a wedding cake for a gay couple, they should have the option to refuse without risking their jobs. That would just be ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I think that Kim Davis should be held accountable for her actions, because she directly defied the law, I believe it was to harsh. The law says that she had to issue the marriage license, but it also contradicts her religious beliefs. This country was founded on the belief of religious freedom, and that freedom has always been protected, until now. This story is an example of which laws triumph over the rights of the people. Kim Davis could’ve resigned, but instead she was used as an example for all of those who were thinking of not following the Supreme Court’s ruling.
ReplyDeleteAfter thinking about this situation for a while and seeing both sides of the argument, one simple answer still hasnt come to me. I understand that gay marriage has been passed by the Supreme Court and is now legal, however another law is freedom of religion. Having Kim Davis be sent to jail without bail and not letting her out until she changes her beliefs is insane to me. Basically they are saying that until she thinks the way the judge does, she will sit in jail for the rest of her life. I dont understand why the gay couple could not just have someone else sign their marriage license and why they cant respect that some people still dont accept gay marriage. For me personally, i think in this situation they are choosing law over peoples rights.
ReplyDeleteKim Davis did not deserve the harsh punishment that she received. She was only staying true to herself and her faith. Although, i do think that she should suffer some sort of punishment. What she did not only goes against the law, but it also is down right cruel. She refused to give a marriage license to a couple that just now finally got the right to marry the person that they loved. When the couple finally thought that their fight for love was over, Kim Davis ripped it away from them once again.On the other hand, i believe that Kim Davis deserves to be heard too. The law states that she has the freedom to practice and to stand by her religious beliefs. In the end, I think the Court could have come up with a much better, and more reasonable punishment for Davis.
ReplyDeleteKim Davis's sentencing was unjust and unconstitutional. Although the Supreme Court passed a law stating that gay marriage is legal in all fifty states, that does not mean that our legal system can encroach on the religious rights of individual. We are guaranteed the basic right to freedom of religion in the Bill of Rights, and it is unconstitutional to punish someone for upholding his or her religious beliefs. Furthermore, Kim Davis has a right to have a public trial according to the Bill of Rights. It is unconstitutional and severe for the judge to place Davis in jail without a trial, without bail, and without a way to go free except by disobeying her religious beliefs. The government is overstepping its power. Davis has a right to say no, and the government cannot force her to abide to secular law if it is in conflict with her religion.
ReplyDeleteThis is a difficult case to take sides on because it goes back to the day old agreement of church verses state. Kim Davis is a catholic who doesn't believe in gay marriage yet works for the government which ruled for gay marriage. She works for the government therefore she must follow the guide lines of her job, however, she is allowed to act upon her religious beliefs. She is standing between a rock and a hard place. If she would have signed the document papers to marry the two men she would have been going against her believes and what she believes God has told her to do but she is not doing her job. I personally think if you can not fulfill your job requirements then you should find another job. Its the same thing as being a sales rep but not believing in what you are selling. The government ruled that gay marriage is legal and she works for the government therefore she needs to follow the rules. Everyday there are new stories in the new about individuals or groups of people who are challenging the church verses state argument and she just open the topic up again on a national level. After saying all of this I believe her punishment was harsh. She shouldn't be forced to do something she doesn't believe in but if her job requires her to then she should take it upon herself to find a new job.
ReplyDeleteAfter listening to both sides of this story, I have come to the conclusion that Kim Davis’ punishment was too harsh. The fact that she is in jail indefinitely without bail for voicing her opinion is very inhumane. Even though she didn’t agree with the homosexual couples, she could’ve gone about the matter differently and the government as well. There was no reason for her to be imprisoned because she was following her religion and personal beliefs. The people that challenged her should be ashamed of themselves for causing problems for no good reason. In conclusion, Kim Davis should be let out of jail and the entire problem should be resolved.
ReplyDeleteI would have to agree with everyone above in saying that Kim Davis' punishment was much too harsh. As Americans, we have been taught to believe that in this country we will always be free. We will have religious freedom to believe whatever we wish and that the country will not punish you for living out these beliefs. By putting Kim in jail in definetly goes against all that this country was founded on. It is difficult to say whether Kim did the right thing in refusing this couple marriage, I believe that she had a right to stick up for her beliefs and that she should not have been punished by that. Knowing however what her job was going to entail after the law was passed legalizing gay marriage, I feel like she should have quit then and there so to avoid any problems in the future with compromising her faith. If she had done so, she would not have fallen into any situation where she needed to refuse to comply.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Maren. This case is very complicated. I do not believe Kim Davis should have been punished so severely. Being in prison until complying with something she doesn't agree with is not only harsh but completely unfair and unjust.
ReplyDeleteIn this country we have religious freedom, and due to Kim's religious beliefs she denied a same sex couple a marriage license. She is devoted to her religion and should not be forced to sign off on something she doesn't agree with. Being devoted and loyal to your believes should not be a reason to be imprisoned. If we have the freedom to belief in what we want, then we should have the right to act in respect to those beliefs. No one should have to be afraid that they're going to get in trouble for their beliefs.
This is a very complicated situation. Everyone not only has a duty to abide by the laws of his or her government, but also an obligation to stand by his or her moral beliefs. Kim Davis clearly listened to her conscience and religion in this case. She believed that granting this couple a marriage license was contrary to God's intention for marriage. Sometimes the only way to change a law is to break it and bring attention to the problems it creates. This has been done in the past by many people. Including Rosa Parks when she refused to give up her seat on the bus. Although I doubt Davis's actions will start a movement to revoke this law, she has to stand by her beliefs in everything she does. She may have had the wrong job for her beliefs but I also believe her punishment was much too harsh. Like Elizabeth said, it is unconstitutional and unjust. She should not be punished for her religion with her only option being to turn her back on her faith.
ReplyDeleteAfter hearing both sides of the story, I believe that Kim Davis’ punishment was way too harsh. She was put in jail without bail until she changes her mind. Although gay marriage has been passed as a law, freedom of religion is also a law. By putting Kim Davis in jail for not believing what others believe is not okay, she has the freedom of religion. The couple could have found another person to sign their marriage licenses. Kim Davis has some nothing wrong so in the end, she should be let out of jail.
ReplyDeleteThe acceptance of same sex marriage is still an issue today. People who are not part of the LGBT community and do not support it have the mindset that it is wrong or abnormal, and therefore do not support it and are against it. People who don't agree with it don't necessarily have to go out of their way to show that they don't like it and make people in the LGBT community's life more challenging. I do think that people who went out of their way to go to Kim from out of state just to make a scene and prove a point were a little in the wrong, but at the same time, it is her job to deal with marriage contracts, and with it becoming legalized she should've been aware that this was a high possibility.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the punishment for Kim Davis is extreme. I think she should have been given the option between resigning and going through with handing out the marriage license to the gay couples trying to obtain them. My belief that her sentencing was taken too far however, does not mean that I agree with her actions. While I respect her religion and I can understand where her actions came from, I agree with the article that she should have resigned. There was no need to make a scene. She could have simply stepped down from her position because of the interference with her beliefs.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the punishment for Kim Davis is extreme. I think she should have been given the option between resigning and going through with handing out the marriage license to the gay couples trying to obtain them. My belief that her sentencing was taken too far however, does not mean that I agree with her actions. While I respect her religion and I can understand where her actions came from, I agree with the article that she should have resigned. There was no need to make a scene. She could have simply stepped down from her position because of the interference with her beliefs.
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